Nye turneringsregler i USA

Started by Bartok, 01 October, 2015, 14:55:08

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Bartok

- som vi kunne overveje at følge.

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?&t=550635

Som erstatning for det såkaldte "No Tactics" kan jeg godt li deres ROC Limited Format:
No Resources, No figures larger than a peanut base, No possession, No Constructs, No ID Cards, No Relics (Everything else is legal including Theme Teams, ATAs, Word Bubbles & Bystanders)

Kloen

Det er bedre end "no tactics" - men overordnet er jeg ikke fan.
"'We hold these truths to be self-evident, they said, 'that all men are created equal.' Strange as it may seem, that was the first time in history that anyone had ever bothered to write that down. Decisions are made by those who show up!"
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Bartok

Hvorfor ikke og hvad foretrækker du?

Kloen

#3
Fordi Heroclix er kompliceret nok i forvejen, og hvis de lavcer nogen restrictions bør det være mod free action abuse  :P

Hvis vi skulle gøre noget herhjemme skulle det være baseret på andres ønsker om rammer for spil end dine og mine, Per. Umiddelbart tænker jeg at vi kan aftale turneringer osv. uden high-cost pieces som entities og evt. uden nyere og indviklede ting som ID cards osv. Men ellers tænker jeg umiddelbart at det fungerer fint nok med at aftale det fra gang til gang
"'We hold these truths to be self-evident, they said, 'that all men are created equal.' Strange as it may seem, that was the first time in history that anyone had ever bothered to write that down. Decisions are made by those who show up!"
Pain is weakness leaving the body!
http://clixreports.com/

Bartok

Synes du, at free actions er Heroclix' største problem, det mest abusable?


Quote from: Kloen on 02 October, 2015, 07:23:03
Fordi Heroclix er kompliceret nok i forvejen, og hvis de lavcer nogen restrictions bør det være mod free action abuse  :P

Hvis vi skulle gøre noget herhjemme skulle det være baseret på andres ønsker om rammer for spil end dine og mine, Per. Umiddelbart tænker jeg at vi kan aftale turneringer osv. uden high-cost pieces som entities og evt. uden nyere og indviklede ting som ID cards osv. Men ellers tænker jeg umiddelbart at det fungerer fint nok med at aftale det fra gang til gang

Kloen

Quote from: Bartok on 02 October, 2015, 11:55:13
Synes du, at free actions er Heroclix' største problem, det mest abusable?

Jeg synes i hvert fald free actions er godt deroppe af.. brugen af free actions til at aktivere spilændrende tin har taget overhånd og strider, i mine øjne, mod et af kerneprincipperne i Heroclix, nemlig power actions, tokens og pushing damage
"'We hold these truths to be self-evident, they said, 'that all men are created equal.' Strange as it may seem, that was the first time in history that anyone had ever bothered to write that down. Decisions are made by those who show up!"
Pain is weakness leaving the body!
http://clixreports.com/

Bartok

Prøv at give et eksempel på, hvad du mener er misbrug af free actions.
Er det fx, hvis Black Panther kan Sidestep + Charge + Leadership + Outwit i samme runde (i alt 4 free actions)? Altså en figur, der koster 140 point.
Er det, hvis Kyle Rayner perplexer sin damage value op, og så laver et Running Shot og derefter en gratis Barrier fra Wall construct (i alt 3 free actions?
Er det, hvis Emerald Empress laver et Running Shot, så Outwitter, så tager et gratis Mind Control pga. sin trait og så laver et Sidestep fra Ophidian, hvis hun nu er possessed af den (i alt 4 free actions)

Kloen

Det er alle gode eksempler. Men en astral strange med free move action som bærer en der kan lave et free action pulse wave.
Eller en kappeklædt korsfarer der kan free action bytte plads med flagermus og så charge. Osv. Osv.
"'We hold these truths to be self-evident, they said, 'that all men are created equal.' Strange as it may seem, that was the first time in history that anyone had ever bothered to write that down. Decisions are made by those who show up!"
Pain is weakness leaving the body!
http://clixreports.com/

Bartok

Jeg synes ikke de eksempler eller dit gør noget dårligt for spillet

Kloen

Quote from: Bartok on 02 October, 2015, 23:31:11
Jeg synes ikke de eksempler eller dit gør noget dårligt for spillet

Quelle surprise.  :P

Jeg synes ikke entities eller green emotional spectrum gør :-D
"'We hold these truths to be self-evident, they said, 'that all men are created equal.' Strange as it may seem, that was the first time in history that anyone had ever bothered to write that down. Decisions are made by those who show up!"
Pain is weakness leaving the body!
http://clixreports.com/

Bartok

Jamen det er jo eksempler som du og Kåre har spillet.

Jeg savner et argument

Modifiers synes er et større problem. Har man en figur ned defense 19 er den intet problem at ramme da der er så mange steder at f0 plussser fra.

Og ophobning af powers. Fx Emerald Empress der gsr Super Senses og så får Impervious via Ion og Shape Change fra Decoy